Violence in 1990

1993-04-22/1993-04-22

Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory

Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory

Multi-party talks to end apartheid came undone more than once and usually it was because Nelson Mandela led his African National Congress team out of the negotiations in protest. These breakdowns usually were brought about by ongoing violence in the black communities, which Mr. Mandela and his colleagues believed had been caused by the apartheid regime’s collusion and orchestration in the violence. Here he talks about one such incident and an exchange he had with both President De Klerk and the police minister about it.

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  • Title: Violence in 1990
  • Date: 1993-04-22/1993-04-22, 1993-04-22/1993-04-22
  • Original Language: English, English
  • Transcript: MANDELA: It was this camp; squatter camp was a stronghold of the ANC. One day members of Inkatha and the police attacked this area. Broad daylight, this was in October 1990, attacked the area and drove out its occupants, confiscated what-you-call their properties and members of Inkatha were now deployed in this area, occupied the houses. I phoned De Klerk and asked him to have Vlok with him. I then said to De Klerk, ‘why has there been no, no action taken? It can easily be established who occupied those shacks until the day of the attack. Secondly, it can easily be established who now occupies those places. Why is it that no action has been taken?’ Well Mr. De Klerk appeared to have been shaken, and he asked Mr. Vlok for an explanation. And Vlok was very rude. And in a loud, in a high tone, rude tone asked me, ‘Whose property is that on which this shack is?’ I said, ‘what is the relevance of that? It doesn’t matter whose land it is. The point is that some people went there, built their structures, brought in their properties. Nobody had a right to drive them out like that without due process of law. Nobody had the right to confiscate their property’. And De Klerk said, ‘you must investigate the matter.’ And the point is this; Mr. De Klerk never came back to me about it.
  • Type: Audio
  • Subjects: Inkatha Freedom Party, Inkatha Freedom Party
  • Repository: Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory, Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory
  • Reference code: ZA COM NMPP-2009/57-56-4, ZA COM NMPP-2009/57-56-4
  • Immediate source of acquisition or transfer: Rick Stengel, Rick Stengel
  • Extent and Medium: 1 audio clip In-point: 41:12 Out-point: 43:27, 1 audio clip In-point: 41:12 Out-point: 43:27
  • Creator: Rick Stengel; Nelson Mandela, Rick Stengel; Nelson Mandela
  • Conditions governing reproduction: Copyright held by the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory, Copyright held by the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory
  • Conditions governing access: Access by permission of the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory, Access by permission of the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory
  • Collection: Rick Stengel interviews, Rick Stengel interviews

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