You recorded at Tuff Gong with the Wailers band in
1982 and returned a few years ago for Kaya N'Gan
Daya, an album of Marley adaptations. But during the
1990s, your music went in all kinds of different direc-
tions. One of the moments that most stands out for me
is the Quanta concept album and the Quanta Live Tour
that supported it.
The Quanta album came at the moment that I had been through
the peak of my popularity in terms of radio airplay, concerts,
and album sales. That was after I had done some very popu-
lar albums like Extra, Raça Humana, and Parabolicamar....I
had the sequence of Luar, Um Banda Um, Raça Humana, Dia
Dorim Noite Neon. And on the album Parabolicamard, I was
already trying to use some songs to discuss the connection
between art and technology-the new technologies, the com-
puter, the satellite dish—and then I decided that I should go for
an album that would be entirely dedicated to the relationship
between art and science, which took me three years to produce,
as it's a double album with twenty five songs. And for the first
time, the live album from Quanta gave me an international
Grammy. So it's an outstanding, remarkable album for me, both
as content and form.
Since you mention technology, tell us a bit about
your last album, Banda Larga Cordel. What does the
title mean?
Banda larga means broadband. Cordel is a kind of popular lit-
erature, poetry books by popular artists that are very cheap, sold
in fairs, a literature that is from medieval times that became
very popular in the Northeast of Brazil. So the cordel is a way
to add this vulgarizing element to the broadband message. So,
it's the broadband message made popular, made available for
the street people.
Why call the album that?
Because the message is that. We are living in new times, and
that coincided with the moment that I opened my world for
sharing online: I allowed people to photograph and film me
and post the stuff through the Internet. I was stimulating people
to do that, and at the same time, I was in the government as a
minister pushing for popularizing broadband facilities in Brazil.
And culturally, politically, technically, scientifically, technologi-
cally, the whole thing was all together, so I decided to call the
album Broadband. And I made a special song to get the message
through, to compact the message in a one-song model.
You allow people to access the album on your website?
Not just the album, but all my albums.
Won't it deter them from buying the albums?
Or maybe the opposite--they will want to buy it. They will be
stimulated, pushed into being interested in the album. Or not.
It's just a way for them to know my music.
Tell me about your years in government.
I had an initial experimental experience in Bahia in 1988, when
I became a local cultural secretary for the municipality. It came
about because the mayor was a friend and I asked him to hire
me, because it was when the glasnost, the perestroika, the Gor-
bachev thing was going on, which I think was very inspiring-
to inspire nonpoliticians to join in politics and help, bringing
new ideas, new processes, new models to the public administra-
tion. That was when we gave [the Bahian organization] Olo-
dum a special treatment, when we gave the Afro institutions in
Bahia an upgrade.
You were able to implement real change?
Yes, implement real political changes through public adminis-
tration. That was a first experience that somehow established a
link between Gilberto Gil and the governmental sphere. But
when Lula was elected, it was the opposite: he invited me, and
I said, "Okay, let's do it." I stayed there for almost six years, and
we did a lot of good things. We had a lot of opposition. We have
people that were reluctant to accept the idea of an artist joining
the government, but anyway, it was okay.
Was it difficult to continue making music? Or did you
drop music for a few years?
Basically, I dropped it for a few years. I was not writing songs,
touring, or recording, but I kept a very residual activity by going
to Europe for one month every year, I would have my holiday
period from government, and then do gigs in Europe. I did that
for five years as a way to keep in touch with music and with the
audiences, not to completely lose track of what I am as an artist.
Now I've been out of government for four months already, so
I've been able to release a new album and reengage in touring
and performing
Outside Brazil, what we hear of the Lula presidency
is about ninety percent positive. The only negative in-
volves corruption.
Yeah, that he's not really able to control, something that sur-
rounds him, and that's very common. In terms of his leadership
and being able to bring new ideas, to implement new processes
and programs and make this belief in Brazil's own qualities and
Brazil's possibility to spread a message of a soft power—more
adequate to contemporary times with a lot of focus on sound
environment, sound society, on more equal distribution of eco-
nomic and commercial and political power—in those terms, he
is a novelty, and he is a success for Brazil, and for the world.
When you look back over your career...
Almost fifty years now.
Is there a moment you are most proud of or nostalgic about?
All the moments have their own sense, their own taste, both
bitter and sweet. I mean, we'd better have a well-balanced life
of bitter and sweet tastes, you know? I have a big family: three
marriages, eight children, seven grandchildren, and a good rep-
utation as an artist, plus those moments as a public government
personality, and lots of friends all over the globe. It's good in
retrospect, I think. O
Thanks to Flora Gil and family, Priscilla at GeGe Prodaçoes,
Liminha, Nelson Mireilles, Otávio Rodrigues, and all others
who helped make this interview happen.
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