minister of
COOL
Grammy award-
winner Gilberto Gil,
an icon of Brazilian
music, is now also
Minister of Culture
in his country's left-
leaning government.
He talks about why
music is always
political and -
surprisingly - why he
thinks New Zealand
has a lot to teach
about good race
relations.
BY DIANA BURNS
T
he slight, natty man with the
wide smile and neat, shoulder
length dreadlocks commands
the stage with undeniable
charisma. Gilberto Gil, probably Brazil's
greatest living musician, is compact
streak of energy. He sarbas, be shimmies,
and he specialises in fast-footwork moves
that delight the audience. It is impossible
to believe that he is 61: he looks decades
younger. It is even harder to believe that
this man, who sings with such power and
feeling who flirts with the audience, who
is every inch a performer, is also a key
minister in the Brazilian Government. No
wonder he has been dubbed the Minister
of Cool.
Two years ago, when Brazilians voted
in their first left-wing government in over
four decades, President Laula de Silva asked
Gil to become Minister of Culture. It was
in inspired appointment. The government
wanted to show that it was on the side
of the exmmon people, and that even
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underprivileged people could be part of
cultural life. No one else could command
the popularity and respect that Gil does.
"Lula said to me, I want these dreadlocks
in my government", says Gil. laughing "To
him they were a symbol of new times, new
people, a new society. Dreadlocks symbol
se rebellion - being unconventional and
non-aligned. That's what this government
wanted to be Lula wanted culture to get
to the people living in the flovelas Islums
and the people without homes or land."
Gil is black, in a country where the
whiter your skin, the better off you tend to
be. Most Brazilian blacks, descended from
the millions of slaves brought from Africa
to work on Brazil's sugar and coffee planta
tions, still struggle for true equality. He is
from Bahia, a poor, predominantly black
state in the north of Brazil, and knows what
it is to come from a humble background.
He often shows that he identifies with
the Afro-
Brazilian religion of Candomble
by wearing all white, as he does it his
first Wellington concert. And he has moal
political credibility
As one of the founders in the 1960s of
"Tropicalia" - a happy mix of indigenous
music with some of the new elements in
Western music - Gil wrote impassioned
songs criticising the military dictatorship
then in power. He went to prison in Brazil
for his efforts, and then spent two years in
exile in London
FAR FROM BEING BITTER, Gil credits the
time in prison with giving him the time to
read widely, on everything from Eastern
religion to Western business management
theory. He was fascinated by the emerg.
ing hippy movement, and identified with
its doctrines of peace and love. When he
read that John Lennon and Yoko Ono had
adopted a macrobiotic diet, he decided
to do the same. He has stuck with it ever
since. That, plus meditation and the
hour's yoga he practises every day are
probably the secrets of his extraordinary
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youthfulness. His small, wiry body is
toned and spry. His eyes sparkle with
profound vitality, and a high, smooth
biow disappears into thick hair with no
trake of grey
"I am an ascetic, but I am not rigid in
anything", says Gil. "T allow myself treats
Who knows. I may even try your famous
New Zealand lamb! But I want to give my
body and my soul a chance to extend their
dialogue with nature
This is classic Gil-speak - unorthodox
and deeply spiritual. Although the man is
accused by some conservatives in Brazil of
being flaky
, in person it is his wisdom and
humility that shine out.
During his exile in London. Gil first
heard the music of the great Jamaican
reggae musician Bob Marley in 1971. It
changed his life.
"First of all, I loved the music. It was
happy and joyful, with a great beat. I
could hear the sun in it. But I also loved
the reggan philosophy. Bob Marley sang
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Gilberto Gil: feel the love, man
Brazil is 32 times bigger than New Zealand
in physical size. With 178 million people,
about everyone having the right to be free it has the sixth biggest population in the
and happy, and to live in peace. He cham
world, and a diverse one. It has the most
pioned the poor people, and encouraged blacks outside Africa, the most Japanese
them to stand up for their rights. He was outside Japan, and large communities
a great poet and philosopher as well as a of Europeans. It's currently the world's
brilliant musician
11th largest economy, but is growing
fast, and is second only to China as an
emerging economy. Though there are huge
gaps between rich and poor in Brazil, the
richest 16 percent are rich beyond the
wildest dreams of
New Zealanders - and
there are 27 million of them.
Gil's love affair with pe culminated
in his visiting Jamaica last year to record
a CD with some of the greats of reggae,
including Marley's daughter Rita. The
second of Gill Wellington concerts is a
tribute to Bob Marley, and reggae has never
sounded better. The audience is swaying,
mcking or up dancing to the imesistible
rhythms. A consummate performer, Gil
also shows his political colours. He tells
the audience with great feeling how things
must change, and that everyone in the
world deserves to participate in life and
culture. Big on audience participation, he
works the audience into a frenzy, imitating
his vocal gymnastics, then asks, "Do you
feel the love?" "Yes!" thay yell as one.
This would have to be one of the best
ways ever for a government to get to that
clusive youth demographic. Could Helen
Clark, our awn Minister of Culture, learn
something here? Everyone in that audience
would have voted for Gil instantly, given
the chance. The note, Helen - it may not
be too late to take up the guitar.
GIL'S IDENTIFICATION with the poor,
black and incligenous communities in
Brazil made him very interested in New
Zealand's Maori culture - and he was
impressed by what he saw.
moments before the first of his
Wellington
There was one of those spine-tingling
concerts. The staff of the New Zealand
ional Arts Festival performed a
powhiri. When it was time for him and his
hand to respond with a waiata, Gil leaned
back, closed his eyes, and began to sing in
his native Portuguese, in a voice so pure
and true that it could break your heart."
want to know where is the la
love..."
Gil believes New Zealand has a great
deal to teach Brazil about how different
races can live together in peace and dignity.
This may seem ironic, as New Zealand
seems to be entering a volatile phase in our
race relations
"I am impressed by the relationship
between your indigenous people and the
colonies. You have mostly
been able to live
harmoniously, and develop a new society
together. I know this hasn't been achieved
yet, but the signs are all there. I only hope
that in Brazil we can learn from you, and
do the same. But, of course, we are a much
bigger country, and it is a hardes task."
To call Brazil simply bigger does not
convey the size of the difference between
us. The giant of the southern hemisphere.
New Zealand business is in the process
of trying to get a slice of the considerable
Brazilian action, and Foreign Affairs and
Trade Minister Phil Goff visited it last
week to help that process, but the average
New Zealander is ignorant about our huge
regional neighbour
. Scantily clad samba
dancers, beaches and the Rio carnival are
all we tend to know of the place.
Kiwis knowledge of Brazilian music is
likewise scant. Gil, who last year won a
Latin Grammy and is undoubtedly one of
the most admired Latin performers in the
world, did not even manage to completely
fill Wellington's Queen's Wharf Events
Centre for two nights. Of that unfortunate
venue, Gil politely says, "We did the best
we could with that gymnasium
WITH ITS HUGE SOCIAL problems and
millions of poor people, Brazil has become
a leading voice in the anti-globalisation
movement.
"We have to fight for our own culture,
and develop it," says Gil. "Industry and
diversity, and let everyone participate. Our
progress are good, as long as we respect
government supports globalisation that
includes everyone. We can't escape it, but
we have to make sure that poor societies
also get to share in the wealth.”
Gil is allergic to political labels, but if
pressed, will describe himself as a green
Socialist .
"In Brazil, we will use whatever eco-
nomic system can work to create a socially
and economically harmonious society
Simply, we want al society where people
can live and let live, love and let love."
That word again. Love is mentioned a lot
by Gil. He mess it in the Execadest possible
sense, he explains. "There is a lot of suffer
ing in life. It is up to us human beings to
balance that with happiness and joy.
Music
speaks of life, and can show ways forward
A musician is always a translator, from one
language into another that is beyond words
And politics is always part of life, too."
As the clated audience leaves Gil's
second concert, I hear a young Maori man
say to another, without sarcasm. "Hey
-Seel the love, man."
Gil's point exactly