And I got in at that time in the '40s, Chicago was a big radio drama center, and we got involved in doing soap operas. And in fact, one stands out in mind. A writer [Richard Durham] came along in 1945 and wrote the first all-Negro - at that time was the word, but it's Black now - soap opera called "Here Comes Tomorrow." And it was such a controversial show that we were about 25 years before our time. There were times that the script was so strong they used to have to take us out of the studios by freight elevators and put us in taxicabs and go up the alley.
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