Religiousness in Gilberto Gil: “I see religion as culture”

For the singer, religion must look philosophically at what is excessively human, to empower it and place it in relation to collectivity.

By Instituto Gilberto Gil

Text: Ceci Alves, filmmaker and journalist

Gilberto Gil's interview for the IBM Project Encontro Marcado Com A Arte (1998)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Gilberto Gil, Ana Oliveira e equipe técnica local durante as filmagens do documentário Disposições Amoráveis, na Índia (Setembro de 2019)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“A spirit of samba.” This is how Gilberto Gil has always styled himself when asked about his religion. Though he was born in a Catholic family and frequents Candomblé almost 50 years ago, Gil never declared any specific belief.

To him, religion has failed in its first goal of reconnecting human and divine, usurping “spirituality to use it as a weapon for the achievement of power,” like he said in the book Disposições Amoráveis [Amiable Dispositions], organized by writer Ana Oliveira, which was also turned into a movie.

Gilberto Gil, Ana Oliveira e equipe técnica local durante as filmagens do documentário Disposições Amoráveis, na Índia (Setembro de 2019)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Thus, when the singer and songwriter offers to talk about religion, the subject almost always turns to faith and a divinity that is light, not a personification of human expectations.

And it is of this faith and this God that Gil talks in his work, when he writes the beautiful “Andar com fé” and “Se eu quiser falar com Deus.” In both, there is the absence of a dogmatic need as a path to achieve transcendence and connect to something beyond himself.

Gilberto Gil em apresentação da turnê OK OK OK na Paraíba (2019-06-06)Instituto Gilberto Gil

When we take, as a first example, “Se eu quiser falar com Deus” (1981), we can see the exceedingly human in those who search for religiousness as a meeting with the divine.

“My God has always been a God that didn’t need to establish a specific confession, create a religion, so my God was a God without religion, an unknown, very internal God.”

Gilberto Gil, in the book Gilberto Bem Perto [Gilberto Up Close], by him and Regina Zappa

Gilberto Gil em ensaio em preto e branco (Anos 2000)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Se Eu Quiser Falar com Deus
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Se eu quiser falar com Deus / If I want to talk to God
Tenho que me aventurar / I have to put myself out there
Tenho que subir aos céus / I have to go to heavens
Sem cordas pra segurar / With no rope to climb on
Tenho que dizer adeus / I have to say goodbye
Dar as costas, caminhar / Turn my back, walk
Decidido, pela estrada / Determined on the road
Que ao findar, vai dar em nada / Which in the end, ends with nothing
Nada, nada, nada, nada / Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing
(...)
Do que eu pensava encontrar / Of what I hoped to find

In “Andar com Fé,” he turns his enthusiasm for people of faith, regardless of religion, into song. Gil is firmly against the norms religions can impose on the lives of individuals, with the goal of, according to him, control alterities “through power (…),through the designation of paths, of the way men should walk,” like he says also in the book Disposições amoráveis. That is why, in the song, he treats faith as a force, something beyond the dogmatic, something pure and untamed.

Gilberto Gil em preparação para apresentação de OK OK OK, no Vivo Rio (2020-01-31)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Entrevista e execução da música Andar Com Fé de Gilberto Gil no programa de rádio Street Samba
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Certo ou errado até / Right or wrong
A fé vai onde quer que eu vá / Faith goes wherever I want it to
Oh oh
A pé ou de avião / By foot or on a plane
Mesmo a quem não tem fé / Even for those who have no faith
A fé costuma acompanhar / Faith is usually with them
Oh oh
Pelo sim, pelo não / Just in case
Andá com fé eu vou / I’m gonna walk in faith
Que a fé não costuma faiá / ’Cause faith doesn’t usually fail

Ministro da Cultura Gilberto Gil visita a Igreja Matriz de São Bartolomeu, em Maragojipe, Bahia (2006-08-24)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Gil has always dealt with religion’s dogmatic interface. Educated in a Catholic school, with experience in Umbanda after growing up, the son of Xangô started dedicating himself to Candomblé—but not as diligently as his wife, manager Flora Gil.

Gilberto Gil e Flora Gil durante desfile do camarote Expresso 2222 (2014-03-02)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“There can’t even be a comparison between me and Flora,” he said, laughing, in an interview. “Today, she is a practitioner of Candomblé, having been initiated 22 years ago, and is devoted to the whole ritualistic universe. Flora is a Candomblé insider,” he concluded.

Gilberto Gil com a Ialorixá Mãe Stella de Oxossi em Salvador (2003-08-28)Instituto Gilberto Gil

The singer and songwriter also said that his entrance into Candomblé was extemporaneous and came because that faith arose in him an intellectual, political, and philosophical awareness of the world, much more than a properly religious one.

Ministro da Cultura Gilberto Gil e Mãe Stella de Oxóssi em visita ao terreiro Ilê Axé Opó Afonjá (2006-07-13)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“Candomblé started existing to me when I became interested in the cultural dimension of African and Afro-Brazilian contributions, then it came naturally and necessarily. The first time I went to a Candomblé yard was when I came back from exile (1972). It was a late entry.”

This comprehension of the political aspect of religiousness is what leads Gilberto Gil through this universe.

“There is a path that, deep down, I adopted from every religion [I experienced], I take the, say, more poetic, more aesthetically interesting aspects. I see religion as culture. … I have always been attracted, in religions, by its more philosophical aspects, that in which they are closest to men, the way men read mystery, because, with God, mystery is a given.”

Gilberto Gil, in Gilberto Bem Perto

Gilberto Gil, Bruno Di Lullo, Bem Gil, José Gil, Domenico Lancellotti, Nara Gil e Danilo Andrade em show da turnê OK OK OK no Ceará (2018-12-09)Instituto Gilberto Gil

This is the message, for instance, in the song “Minha ideologia, minha religião,” released in 1985 in album Dia Dorim Noite Neon. The song is structured as a mantra, with only two verses that go on in perpetuum mobile:

Gilberto Gil and Band in the final moments of the show ok ok at the Castro Alves Theater (2020-02-09)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Minha ideologia é o nascer de cada dia / My ideology is the sunrise every day
E minha religião é a luz na escuridão / And my religion is light in darkness

Gilberto Gil faz show no Festival MECAInhotim (2019-05-18)Instituto Gilberto Gil

These verses, stringed together, translate Gil’s thinking about religion: freeing oneself from the “meagre box of religious views or religious territories claimed by each religion,” as the artist said in an interview.

Gilberto Gil e Ana Oliveira em encontro com Mahatma Amma, durante as filmagens do documentário Disposições Amoráveis, na Índia (Setembro de 2019)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“This song’s first message is inter-religiosity, all religions have to talk amongst themselves. God, if He is God, is everyone’s God, is a God for everyone. His name or how we call him—light, for instance—doesn’t matter,” he sentenced.

Gilberto Gil como ministro da Cultura em meio ao Bloco Afro Ijexá Filhos de Gandhy na posse do então presidente Lula (2003-01-01)Instituto Gilberto Gil

This virtuous cycle proposed by music makes his view of religion also as a political instance apparent, but not in the common sense of governance, public management, party affiliation.

Ministro da Cultura Gilberto Gil visita exposição Negros: Passado e Presente, durante abertura da Conferência de Intelectuais da África e da Diáspora (2006-07-12)Instituto Gilberto Gil

And yes, politics understood as its philosophical principle of a space for debating the common sense—or, as philosopher Aristotle would have it, a mechanism that has, as its point of start and arrival, men’s happiness.

Thus, in “Minha ideologia, minha religião”—which, more recently, was the song that closed the OK OK OK concerts (maybe because of its astounding relevance today, 35 years after its release)—, Gilberto Gil asks everyone to think about themselves as alterities, for if I, as a social being, face “my ideology” as an agenda with gregarious ideas which take me to “the sunrise every day,” this will drive me to continue my existence putting myself in relation to others. And if, in that same exercise of ontology, I understand “my religion” as “the light in darkness,” it will first be the path that will guide me to try and be with others; and, next, the light that will rise from the skies every day. It is the light (Enlightenment) of human view, which would emanate from religion and ideology, that comes from this way of seeing proposed by Gil.

Gilberto Gil and band in the final moments of the OK OK OK show at the Castro Alves Theater (2020-02-09)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Ministro da Cultura Gilberto Gil inaugura obras de restauração da Igreja de Nossa Senhora do Sagrado Coração do Monte Formoso (Igreja do Rosário dos Pretos) e cemitério, em Cachoeira, Bahia (2006-08-24)Instituto Gilberto Gil

The other role of religion, for Gil, would be to give the faithful the ability to be empowered and combative. In his view, religion can’t work as a shaper of human diversity or a dispensary of prejudice.

Ministro da Cultura Gilberto Gil visita a Igreja Matriz de São Bartolomeu, em Maragojipe, Bahia (2006-08-24)Instituto Gilberto Gil

Religion must fulfill is first job of preaching love and tolerance, but be aware of any attempt on the collective human dimension.

Registro da igreja Sacred Heart Church realizado durante turnê For All de Gilberto nos Estados Unidos (2012-11-04)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“I, for instance, wrote the song ‘Guerra santa’ to denounce the aggression of one religion on another, which was the case with a pastor from the Universal Church of the Kingdom of God kicking an image of Our Lady of Aparecida…

Ronaldo Fenômeno, Mãe Carmen do Gantois e Gilberto Gil se divertem no camarote Expresso 2222, no carnaval baiano (2012-02-19)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“… So, lots of the references to religious issues present in my songs are tied to this political dimension of religion. That’s how it was in the albums Um banda um, Obatalá, which I released in honor of Mother Carmem…

Gilberto Gil com Mãe Stella de Oxóssi (2017-06-24)Instituto Gilberto Gil

“… A lot of these moments bring about a defense against discrimination.”

Among them, the one that speaks most to Gilberto Gil is the defense of Candomblé, which, to him, was always marginalized by Brazilian society. “The association of Candomblé with slave-holding inhumanity is a given. And religion is a political artifact. Now, in Brazil, we are going through a phase in which a religious segment is extremely instrumental in the political sense, and so on. Here and there you see this thing of using the religion element as a data of political battles,” Gil concluded in 2020, saying that he then feels we need to take our blindfolds off.

Credits: Story

Exhibit credits

Research and text: Ceci Alves
Editing: Chris Fuscaldo
Assembly: Patrícia Sá Rêgo
Copyediting: Laura Zandonadi

General credits

Editing and curating: Chris Fuscaldo / Garota FM
Musical content research: Ceci Alves, Chris Fuscaldo, and Ricardo Schott
MinC content research: Carla Peixoto, Ceci Alves, and Laura Zandonadi
Photo subtitles: Anna Durão, Carla Peixoto, Ceci Alves, Chris Fuscaldo, Daniel Malafaia, Gilberto Porcidonio, Kamille Viola, Laura Zandonadi, Lucas Vieira, Luciana Azevedo, Patrícia Sá Rêgo, Pedro Felitte, Ricardo Schott, Roni Filgueiras, and Tito Guedes
Subtitle copyediting: Anna Durão, Carla Peixoto, Laura Zandonadi, and Patrícia Sá Rêgo
Data editing: Isabela Marinho
Acknowledgments: Gege Produções, Gilberto Gil, Flora Gil, Gilda Mattoso, Fafá Giordano, Maria Gil, Meny Lopes, Nelci Frangipani, Cristina Doria, Daniella Bartolini, and all photographers and characters in the stories
All media: Instituto Gilberto Gil

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