Part 2 - A ceiling as a problem: the path to Hann Trier

Part of the exhibition "Clashing styles?"

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-28)Charlottenburg Palace

No holds barred

The controversy over the pictures and the role of the public

The decision-making process regarding the ceiling painting in the White Hall dragged on for a total of seven years, with a particular role being played by the press. In particular the Morgenpost and the Tagesspiegel shared the view of the Berlin head conservationist Kurt Seeleke that the painting should be reconstructed. In order to counteract what they often saw as falsifications of the subject in hand, staff of the Department of Palaces found their own ways of using precisely the same media. The one who suffered most from these exploits was Kurt Seeleke himself. 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-04-20)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper report from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 20 April 1968

The article’s headline – ‘What if Old Fritz [Frederick the Great] heard about this!’ – is obviously calculated to arouse in the readers a negative attitude towards abstract painting as mentioned in the subtitle. The ideas under consideration by the decision-makers and reported in the article – that Trier should be invited not just to submit a design but to execute the whole ceiling painting, and that the final decision should only made thereafter – were subsequently abandone

‘What is causing the head conservationist’s nausea is to be realized for all eternity in the Great Dining Hall.’
‘The painter Trier received the commission for a completed ceiling painting at a price of 40,000 Deutschmarks.’

Berlin, Bezirk Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf, Schaufenster mit dem ausgestellten Entwurf von Karl Manninger zum Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg nach Antoine Pesne (1968)Charlottenburg Palace

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Berlin, Charlottenburg-Wilmersdorf district, shop window with the design by Karl Manninger for the ceiling painting of the White Hall in the New Wing of Charlottenburg Palace, after Antoine Pesne, November 1968

The press were not the only ones to support Seeleke in his call for a reconstruction. In 1968, for example, Manninger’s design was displayed in the shop window of Berlin fashion designer Werner Machnik’s atelier on the Kurfürstendamm. After a few days, it was removed on the instructions of the Senator for Building and Housing, Rolf Schwedler. 

Ausschnitt aus dem Katalog der Ausstellung "Schmidt Berg -- Berlin so gesehen" zu den Berliner Bauwochen (September 1968) by Heinz Schmidt-BergCharlottenburg Palace

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Page from the catalogue of the exhibition Berlin so gesehen with works by Heinz Schmidt-Berg, September 1968

Likewise in 1968, the Berliner Bauwoche mounted an exhibition of paintings and cartoons by Heinz Schmidt-Berg entitled Berlin so gesehen (in other words, ‘Another view of Berlin’). This page shows, no doubt without serious intent, a design for the ceiling of the White Hall: an aeroplane emitting trails of vapour is seen speeding across a sky of billowing clouds with tumbling putti at the corners. 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-05)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 5 September 1968

One of the Palaces Department’s main arguments against a reconstruction was that there was no colour image of Pesne’s original painting. However, Berlin’s head conservationist Seeleke still hoped that a colour photograph or sketch might be found and launched an appeal through the press. 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-18)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 18 September 1968

And indeed, Seeleke soon received information from a newspaper about an alleged sketch painting of Pesne’s ceiling from the time of its creation. The newspaper published the accompanying letter, signed by a certain Bodo von Feckendorff. 

‘I am a native of Breslau [Wrocław, Poland, until 1945 Prussian Silesia] and was able to save this oil sketch when fleeing from the Russians … My grandfather was valet de chambre of the art-loving Prince Louis, who, shortly before he [the Prince] died, presented it to him in gratitude for having looked after him so selflessly.’

Telegramm Kurt Seelekes an Bodo von Feckendorf (1968-09-17)Charlottenburg Palace

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Telegram from Kurt Seeleke to Bodo von Feckendorff, 17 September 1968

The oil sketch was examined by restorers. In order to find out more about its provenance, that is to say, its origins, Seeleke sent a telegram addressed to Bodo von Feckendorff, blissfully unaware that no such person existed.

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-26)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 26 September 1968

A short time later it came out that the sketch painting was a fake. It had been done by Helmut Börsch-Supan of the Palaces Department, who used his second home address to send the telegram under the bogus name von Feckendorff. He had completed the painting on an old canvas in less than three hours. According to this article, Kurt Seeleke was considering taking him to court. However, he ultimately refrained. 

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Helmut Börsch-Supan

From 1961 curator and from 1983 to 1995 deputy director of the administration of the State Palaces and Gardens in Berlin.
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Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-26)Charlottenburg Palace

No holds barred

Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 26 September 1968

Börsch-Supan wanted to play a trick not only on Seeleke but also, and principally, on the press. In doing so, his intention was to give Margarete Kühn moral support, as the newspaper articles on the ceiling painting generally only presented Seeleke’s point of view. On the day the fake painting was exposed, the Tagesspiegel published a poem on the White Hall that likewise caused a stir.

‘The eighteenth-century occasional poem printed above possibly relates to the ceiling painting in the White Hall at Charlottenburg Palace. It was sent to us recently by one of our readers, who came across it when conducting research in the Hohenzollern family archive around 1935.’

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-09-28)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 28 September 1968

Kurt Seeleke felt humiliated by the whole business of the faked sketch. Now his wounds had salt rubbed into them by the revelation that the poem on the ceiling painting was likewise fictitious; it did not date from the eighteenth century but had been composed – in cod eighteenth-century German – by Martin Sperlich, Helmut Börsch-Supan’s colleague at the Palaces Department. 

‘In the opinion of the forger’s superiors, “there is no cause for any steps to be taken against Dr Helmut Börsch-Supan.” It is thought that the head conservationist should take the matter in good humour.’ 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-10-01)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 1 October 1968

Once again, the press had been taken in: the initial letters of the poem’s lines made up the sentence ‘Kurt Seeleke ist ein Esel’ – ‘Kurt Seeleke is an ass’. To be fair to Seeleke, this calls for qualification. Kurt Seeleke was a reputable conservationist who had previously worked in Braunschweig. When he moved to Berlin, he was hindered in his work by the political trend towards prioritizing new buildings, in spite of which, for example, he managed to save the Kollegienhaus, a notable Baroque building in Kreuzberg. Seeleke retired at the age of 56 in 1969.

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1968-10-13)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 13 October 1968

‘Seven days after the oil sketch had arrived, Seeleke discovered an adhesive label two square centimetres in size under a roughly two-centuries-old, worm-eaten scrap of paper on the back of the canvas. The inscription upon it: “From Antoine Pesne to his dear friend Seeleke”.’

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Helmut Börsch-Supan

From 1961 curator and from 1983 to 1995 deputy director of the administration of the State Palaces and Gardens in Berlin.
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No holds barred

The events surrounding the forged sketch and the poem require a comment from today's perspective: Kurt Seeleke was a deserving conservator who had come to Berlin from Braunschweig. His work was not made easy here, as politics favoured new buildings. Nevertheless, he succeeded, for example, in saving the baroque Kollegienhaus in Kreuzberg. Seeleke retired in 1969 at the age of 56.

Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Die an der Decke befestigten Probestücke von Hann Trier und Karl Manninger (1970)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

The public opinion poll

Hann Trier’s sample painting – that is to say, his full-scale design – had hung in the White Hall for over a year when Karl Manninger’s was affixed to the ceiling for general inspection. In order for a decision to be finally reached, a number of art experts in a commission were first asked for their views and then the people of Berlin were asked to take part in an opinion poll on the designs.

Studie zum Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg (1969) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Hann Trier, study for the ceiling painting in the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, 1969, matt paint on paper, mounted on particle board, 151.7 x 327.6 cm

This overall design of Trier’s for the ceiling was the model for the monumental full-size sample painting that was affixed to the ceiling of the White Hall.

Probestücke für das Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg in drei Teilen (1969) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Hann Trier, sample pieces for the ceiling of the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, in three parts, March 1969

For these pieces, Trier took a section from the right of the upper half of the overall study and enlarged them with a few variations onto several canvases, which were then affixed to the ceiling.

Probestücke für das Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg in drei Teilen (1969) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Hann Trier, sample pieces for the ceiling of the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, in three parts, 1969, matt paint on canvas, 188 x 248 cm

In 2020, during the preparations for the present exhibition, these large-size maquettes were discovered in the attics of Charlottenburg Palace and restored. 

Probestücke für das Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg in vier Teilen (1970) by Karl ManningerCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Karl Manninger, sample pieces for the ceiling painting in the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, one of four, Hera and Hermes with sections of cloud, 1970, oil on canvas, h. 415 cm, w. 490 cm

For his large sample design, Karl Manninger chose a scene from the middle of the left-hand half of Pesne’s composition. It shows Hera on her chariot, with Hermes before her, holding a golden apple. He is about to bring the apple to Paris, who will award it to the one he judges the fairest – Aphrodite, Athena, or Hera. 

Probestück für das Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg (1970) by Karl ManningerCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Karl Manninger, sample piece for the ceiling painting in the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, Athena, 1970, oil on canvas, 155.5 x 132.5 cm

An additional sample, which was not intended to be mounted on the ceiling, is a continuation of the previous section: it shows Hera from the waist up and above her Athena. From the rendering of Hera it can be seen that Manninger was experimenting with alternatives: he made variations from design to design, as here both in the colour scheme and in details such as Hera’s mouth. 

Probestück für das Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg (1970) by Karl ManningerCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Karl Manninger, sample piece for the ceiling painting in the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, Aphrodite, 1970, oil on canvas, 209 x 277,5 cm

In a further section Manninger focused on the third goddess, Aphrodite. While in the first section he had still painted her attribute the shell in gold, here it is rendered in tones of green and blue. The sections make it clear that Manninger was not able to reconstruct the exact colour scheme of Pesne’s painting.

Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Die an der Decke befestigten Probestücke von Hann Trier und Karl Manninger (1970)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Berlin, Charlottenburg Palace, New Wing, White Hall, the sample pieces by Hann Trier and Karl Manninger affixed to the ceiling, as seen in 1970/71

At the end of 1970 an expert commission of art historians, art critics and artists came together to pass an opinion on the designs. The majority, unconvinced by Manninger’s reconstruction, spoke out in favour of Trier. Many, however, who were still not entirely satisfied with Trier’s samples, considered that he should produce further designs. 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1971-01-15)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 15 January 1971

Senator Stein was now even more firmly convinced that it would be a good solution to have Trier paint the ceiling. However, he also wished to convince Senator Schwedler of this view. In order for a decision finally to be reached, he had an opinion poll conducted amongst visitors to the palace, for which the White Hall was specially opened. 

Informationsblatt für die Besucherbefragung (1971)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Information sheet for the visitors’ opinion poll, 1971

On account of the storm of viewers at the first opening, visitors were admitted to the White Hall on a total of three Sundays in January 1971. They were invited to form their opinion on the basis of a freely available information sheet and the designs on display. 

Informationsblatt für die Besucherbefragung (1971)Charlottenburg Palace

Erste Seite aus einem der ausgelegten Bücher der BesucherbefragungCharlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

First page from one of the books put out for the visitors taking part in the opinion poll, January 1971 

The visitors were asked to enter their names and addresses in one of the books and to write down their choice from a selection of five possibilities: 
a) A white ceiling,
b) A ceiling in blue or with a painting of clouds,
c) A free figural variation,
d) As exact a replication of the original as possible, or 
e) A modern work of art.

Ausschnitte aus den ausgelegten Büchern der Besucherbefragung (1971)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

‘I am in favour of as exact a copy as possible, as I consider a modern “art work” would create a terrible clash of styles.’


‘For Pesne – against a style clash’


‘In any case the original painting should be reconstructed, to remain as true as possible to the hall’s spatial impression. To have a clash of styles would be a great pity and very regrettable.’


‘If the ceiling is painted with a design by Trier, then be so good as to fit the hall out with tubular steel furnishings so that the clash of styles is complete. If no restorer can be found who is capable of doing a very good reconstruction, then one should wait with a white ceiling until such a restorer comes along.’

Ausschnitte aus den ausgelegten Büchern der Besucherbefragung (1971)Charlottenburg Palace

‘The reconstructed Pesne will overwhelm the hall. Trier creates the illusion of gazing into the vaults of heaven.’


‘I came with great scepticism, having read in the press that a design by Trier was under consideration. Now, after looking at the designs and the painting on the ceiling for a long time, I am totally enthralled at how well a work of modern art harmonizes with this space.’


‘I have known the hall since pre-war days. Even then some people felt
felt the ceiling painting was too heavy. I consider that this opportunity should be grasped – with a “Blue Sky with Clouds”. This would create a unity with the gold. (72 years of age)’

Auswertung der Besucherbefragung (1971)Charlottenburg Palace

A city takes sides

Evaluation of the visitors’ opinion poll, 1971

The entries in the books and opinions submitted by post were painstakingly evaluated. According to the result, 77 per cent had voted for a reconstruction and around 17 per cent for the design by Hann Trier. 

Zeitungsbericht aus dem Pressespiegel der Verwaltung der Staatlichen Schlösser und Gärten Berlin (1971-11-27)Charlottenburg Palace

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Newspaper article from the press cuttings of the Department of State Palaces and Gardens Berlin, 27 November 1971

According to Senator Stein, the survey was intended to do no more than to ascertain the public’s general feeling. The result of the poll was not to determine the decision. In the evaluation, the opinions expressed were thus not all accorded the same importance. On the basis of the quality and detail of the entries, the assessors felt they could judge the ability of visitors to express a valid opinion – an assumption which was strongly criticized by the press. 

Helmut Börsch-Supan im Weißen Saal von Schloss Charlottenburg (Juni 2020)Charlottenburg Palace

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Helmut Börsch-Supan

From 1961 curator and from 1983 to 1995 deputy director of the administration of the State Palaces and Gardens in Berlin.
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Berlin Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Gerüst für die Bemalung der Decke (1972)Charlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

The commission to Hann Trier

Finally a decision had been reached. In July 1971, almost seven years after the first discussions, the commission for a ceiling painting was issued to Hann Trier. From February to December 1972, Trier painted the ceiling of the White Hall on the basis of his final design. On 1 March 1973, the New Wing with the White Hall and Golden Gallery was finally opened to visitors. Shortly afterwards there was a second opinion poll, which yielded a result significantly more favourable to Trier. 

Auftrag zur Ausführung des Deckenbildes im Weißen Saal von Schloss Charlottenburg an Hann Trier durch den Senator für Wissenschaft und Kunst Werner SteinCharlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Commission for the execution of the ceiling painting in White Hall of Charlottenburg Palace, issued to Hann Trier by Werner Stein, Senator for Scholarship and Art, 21 July 1971 

On 21 July 1971 Senator Werner Stein officially commissioned Hann Trier to paint the ceiling in the White Hall. In so doing, Senator Stein explicitly instructed the artist to take into consideration the expert commission’s suggestions and the completion of the painting on the coving.

Entwurf zum Deckenbild des Weißen Saals im Neuen Flügel von Schloss Charlottenburg (1972) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Hann Trier, design for the ceiling painting of the White Hall, New Wing, Charlottenburg Palace, 1972, matt paint on canvas, 121 x 240 cm

Hann Trier oriented his execution of the ceiling painting around this design, which differs significantly in its coloration from earlier studies. It is dominated by yellow and blue tones, with which Trier wished to effect a contrast to the pink and green tones of the Golden Gallery.

Berlin Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Gerüst für die Bemalung der Decke (1972)Charlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Berlin Charlottenburg Palace, New Wing, White Hall, scaffold for the painting of the ceiling, 1972

Trier worked on a mobile scaffold. By way of preparation, to help him get his bearings up on the scaffold, he traced the outlines of his design onto transparent paper and then traced them onto the ceiling. In the first step of the painting process, he applied the areas of colour with brushes and then blurred them with a sponge. 

Einer der Pinsel von Hann Trier, mit dem er die Decke im Weißen Saal malte (um 1970)Charlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

One of the brushes Hann Trier used to paint the ceiling of the White Hall, 1970s

Hann Trier completed the painting section by section on the basis of his final design. Then he turned his attention to the coving, to which he made additions in order to create an effective transition to the ceiling proper. After these tasks and consideration of the new overall impression, he returned to the ceiling painting, which he changed in several places.

Prof. Hann Trier bei der Arbeit mit dem Schwamm am Deckenbild im Weißen Saal von Schloss CharlottenburgCharlottenburg Palace

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Hann Trier

Painter of the ceiling painting in the White Hall of Charlottenburg Palace.
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Prof. Hann Trier bei der Bemalung der Decke des Weißen Saals im Schloss Charlottenburg (1972)Charlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Hann Trier painting the ceiling of the White Hall in Charlottenburg Palace, 1972

Hann Trier wrote that for him the ten months of work represented a ‘golden marriage between eye and hand’. This time, he ‘gave the eye priority over the hand. After all, if one has a seeing eye, one can hardly can paint for decades without noticing what one has painted is gradually beginning to look back at one. Through the eyes it falls back into the hands from which it came, where it understands itself anew …’

Berlin, Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Deckengemälde (1972) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Berlin, Charlottenburg Palace, New Wing, White Hall, ceiling painting by Hann Trier, 1972, state in 2018

Hann Trier himself once compared the 120-square-metre completed ceiling painting with a battle. Specificially, he described the battle of Fehrbellin of 1675 during the war between Sweden and Brandenburg as rendered in Heinrich von Kleist’s play The Prince of Homburg or the Battle of Fehrbellin.

After seven long years

He described the dynamic structures in blue to the north as the Brandenburg-Prussian cavalry, in the face of which the Swedes are retreating. In the area around the structures, dust and smoke are being stirred up by the hostilities.

After seven long years

Trier described the grid- or rib-like structures as the ribbons of genii (protective spirits) which had got entangled in a strong wind.

After seven long years

According to Trier, the battle also changes into the Four Seasons with Spring in the west, Summer in the north, Autumn in the east and Winter in the south. Another possibility, Trier said, would be to see it as the Four Continents – only four, because Baroque Prussia did not yet know of Oceania. As all the motifs which Trier mentions were constantly recurring Baroque pictorial themes, they had clearly been points of reference for him.

After seven long years

When concluding his commentary on the ceiling painting, however, Trier makes one thing clear – thus putting a question mark against what he has just said: ‘A self-distancing from the figure, from what is represented, is also implied.’ What he is actually implying is the turning away from the figural, from the readily comprehensible, that is to say, the orientation that gives Hann Trier’s art its special identity. What is more, he was saying this in a time ‘which tends to assume that the more comprehensible art is, the better it is.’

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Berlin, Charlottenburg Palace, New Wing, White Hall

Move through the hall and take a look at the ceiling.

Berlin, Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Deckengemälde (1972) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

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Hann Trier

Painter of the ceiling painting in the White Hall of Charlottenburg Palace.
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Berlin, Schloss Charlottenburg, Neuer Flügel, Weißer Saal, Ausschnitt aus dem Deckengemälde, Kartusche im Osten mit Inschrift (1972) by Hann TrierCharlottenburg Palace

After seven long years

Berlin, Charlottenburg Palace, New Wing, White Hall, section from the ceiling painting by Hann Trier, eastern cartouche with inscription, state in 2018

In one of the cartouches Hann Trier inserted an inscription that is hardly perceptible from below. 

HOC COELVM NOVVM MARTIN SPERLICH CREANDVM ESSE CENSVIT POST VII CERTAMINIS ANNOS AVDITA ET ALTERA PARTE SENATOR STEIN PINGI IVSSIT. HANN TRIER MCMLXXII X MENSIBVS MANV SVA PINXIT. DECEMBER 1972                                              

‘Martin Sperlich advised that this new heaven should be created and after seven years of contention, the other side also having been heard, Senator Stein ordered that it be painted.


Painted by Hann Trier with his own hands in ten months in 1972.'   


December 1972’

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A ceiling as a problem: the path to Hann Trier

Project management: Samuel Wittwer
Concept and realisation: Jule Sophie Christ
Assistance: Florian Dölle

Text: Jule Sophie Christ / Berlinische Galerie
Translation: Sophie Kidd and John Nicholson, Vienna

Special thanks to Kunststiftung Hann Trier and Berlinischen Galerie.

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